First-Time Obedience: Should I Require Immediate Obedience from My Child?

A thoughtful and biblical look at this challenging question

First-time obedience: Should I require Immediate Obedience from my child?

First-time obedience, characterized by the phrase, โ€œobey all the way, right away, with a happy heart,โ€ has become a popular idea in some Christian parenting circles. What parent wouldnโ€™t love it if a child obeyed consistently, quickly, thoroughly, and cheerfullyโ€”especially in front of other parents, Grandma and Grandpa, or the pastor! To train this kind of immediate obedience, many parents give consequences quickly and frequently. Some parents have even told us this idea is so ingrained that they believe, โ€œIโ€™m letting my child get away with stuff if I donโ€™t quickly and firmly discipline.โ€

And truly, when it comes from a sincere heart, obedience is a very good thing.

After wrestling with this concept when our kids were young and decades of working with families, weโ€™ve reached some different conclusions about what the Bible teaches than many popular parenting authors. What follows is a thoughtful journey through what weโ€™ve discovered about this challenging topic.

Is first-time obedience biblical?

The rationale for enforcing immediate obedience with quick consequences is often based on Ephesians 6:1: โ€œChildren, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right.โ€ Itโ€™s a verse we all want our children to heed. However, the verse isnโ€™t aimed at parents, itโ€™s aimed at children. Itโ€™s not a parentโ€™s job to convict their kids about the importance of this verse. Thatโ€™s the Holy Spiritโ€™s job. The parents’ job is explained clearly a few verses later: โ€œFathers [or parents], do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord.โ€

In other words, parents, raise your kids in such a way that when they hear their verse, they will trust and obey. In fact, rather than requiring immediate obedience through quick consequences, Scripture seems to acknowledge that obedience is often a learned process. The ultimate keys for growing in obedience are Godโ€™s amazing grace, true repentance, and reverence for Godโ€™s desires. 

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Did Jesus demand obedience?

In the parable of the two sons, two sons are asked by their father to โ€œget to work.โ€ One said, โ€œYes, dad,โ€ but ditched the work. The other said, โ€œNo, dad,โ€ but later had a change of heart and went to work. Jesus taught that the son who was initially defiant but later reconsidered and obeyed was the obedient son. So what looked like obedience was actually rebellion, and what looked like rebellion (without an immediate consequence) became obedience; a picture of how God is โ€œgracious and compassionate, slow to anger and rich in loveโ€ (Psalm 145:8).

Letโ€™s consider a practical example

Letโ€™s consider a practical example: the misbehavior of sibling conflict. How often do parents quickly and sharply confront or punish children for selfish, arrogant arguing? (That scenario between irritated parents and arguing kids certainly happened in our household at times!) Itโ€™s helpful to look at how Jesus navigated this issue with His disciples (Matthew 9:33-37):

Then He came to Capernaum. And when He was in the house He asked them, โ€œWhat was it you disputed among yourselves on the road?โ€ But they kept silent, for on the road they had disputed among themselves who would be the greatest. And He sat down, called the twelve, and said to them, โ€œIf anyone desires to be first, he shall be last of all and servant of all.โ€ Then He took a little child and set him in the midst of them. And when He had taken him in His arms, He said to them, โ€œWhoever receives one of these little children in My name receives Me; and whoever receives Me, receives not Me but Him who sent Me.โ€

Of course, Jesus knew that they were arguing and what they had been arguing about! Yet, He waited to address their conflict until He saw the right, poignant teaching opportunity. Even then, He didnโ€™t scold or punish the arguing, but corrected them with a vivid, visual teaching of the importance and the blessing of the opposite attitude and behaviorโ€”humility and service to others. Nothing immediate about it. 

Picture that scene, and imagine the disciples all watching the expression of tender affection on Jesusโ€™ face as he drew the little child into his arms. This approach takes a lot more thought and intentionality than a quick sharp rebuke or punishment aimed at quickly stopping irritating behavior in the name of obedience.

Potential downsides of demanding first-time obedience

Over the decades, we have observed both rigid and graceful ways to help kids learn about obedience. Some parents model heartfelt obedience to God and bring a lot of grace and love to their focus on training kids to obey immediately. Still, itโ€™s helpful for all of us to be aware of potential pitfalls so we can thoughtfully avoid them.

Before unpacking some strategies for keeping Godโ€™s grace front and center in this challenge, we’ll share five things we’ve noticed can happen when immediate obedience becomes the primary focus.

Demanding immediate obedience may lead to:

  1. Children may begin believing that being ‘good’ is what matters mostโ€”and may miss the deeper why behind right choices. When kids obey a command primarily to avoid punishment, they may begin to feel that all that matters is behavior, not their hearts. Phil Vischer, creator of VeggieTales, has expressed concern that the end result of all his behavior training videos was lots of little moralists who didnโ€™t realize they needed a Savior.

In all his focus on behavior, he didnโ€™t communicate that life is about walking in an often messy, but forgiven, relationship with Jesus. (See his kidsโ€™ book Sydney and Norman for a refreshing story that makes Godโ€™s unconditional love for children clear.)

  1. Children may struggle to see themselves as creative, capable problem-solvers. A requirement for immediate obedience leaves a child little room for creative problem-solving about how to get something done or do the right thing. One Christian school teacher once told us she could almost always spot the kids raised in homes where strong consequences were given in the name of immediate obedience. She said, โ€œThey are well behaved and never question a directive, yet thereโ€™s no spark in their eyes and little creativity to take risks or think outside the box. Iโ€™d take a classroom full of lively, creative kids any day.โ€
  1. Children may flounder when given more independence as teens or young adults. One therapist said, โ€œChristian counseling offices are full of adults who are the product of controlling, punitive parents.โ€ Kids are especially vulnerable to struggling as adults if their parents thought for them by making everything about commands and obedience. In those families, kids donโ€™t learn who they are, whatโ€™s important to them, how to make wise decisions, or how to problem-solve their way through a conflict.

  1. Children may carry hurt or frustration toward their parents into adulthood. Immediate obedience thinking can weave through the fabric of the whole relationship. We have heard many adults make statements like, โ€œIโ€™m just not that close to my parents. They still seem to want to tell me what to do.โ€ Or, โ€œMy parents still think they know better than me.โ€ This resentment can carry into grandparenting as well. Some grown kids donโ€™t trust their parents with their grandkids.ย  ย 

  1. Children may relate to God the way they’ve related to authorityโ€”with distance or fear rather than closeness. A common defense of requiring immediate obedience is, โ€œI make sure my kids obey me quickly, so they will also learn to obey God.โ€ These parents may have great intentions, but it appears that the opposite may be true. A report titled Attachment to God and Parents reveals that โ€œRespondents from overprotective, rigid, or authoritarian homes tended to report both greater God Anxiety and God Avoidance.ย  โ€ฆit appears that authoritarian parents produce children with concerns about their personal worth and Godโ€™s loveโ€ฆโ€

What about kids who are compliant?

One young man who, as a child, was โ€œobedience-trainedโ€ in a Christian household told us, โ€œWhen my parents dropped me off at college, I was drunk before their taillights disappeared on the horizon.โ€ It took years of recovery from alcoholism for him to find his way to deep and abiding faith.

This self-destruction also happened to a friend of ours. While growing up, she submitted to the requirement of immediate obedience. It looked good to her parents and kept her out of trouble. But our friend resented that control and quickly and angrily โ€œcame off the railsโ€ when she moved out of the home. 

With no โ€œimmediate obedienceโ€ controls in her life, she struggled to make wise choices, learning to โ€œobeyโ€ her boyfriends, and became a single mom in the process. In tears, she stated, โ€œI have no idea who I am or how to make a wise decision.โ€ Her difficult journey surprised her parents, who said she was the most compliant of all their kids.

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4 ways to encourage obedience in kids (without demanding immediate compliance)

Do these concerns mean that we shouldnโ€™t teach our kids to obey us? Of course not! Obedience to parents is a really good thing, but itโ€™s how we train our kids that is important. 

1. Set an example and โ€œlive out loud.โ€ 

If you regularly set an example of obedience to God, this is a great start! For your kids to be aware of your obedience and the benefits of it, keep talking about it. For example, if you responded to Godโ€™s conviction regarding a co-worker, say so! It might sound like this, โ€œAt work today, God convicted me of my critical statement to a coworker. I obeyed right away and went to apologize and make it right. That felt so good!โ€ 

Or, perhaps youโ€™re working on honoring your own parents in obedience to Paulโ€™s teaching in Ephesians 6. You could say, โ€œIโ€™ve been intentionally working to obey the Bibleโ€™s teaching to honor my parents. Iโ€™m working to be more patient when they want to talk for a long time about something. It feels so much better to obey God by honoring them with my kind attention!โ€ You could even invite your child to give you a high five when you do! There is no end to the ways you could set an example and live out loud like this. 

2. Affirm obedience when you see it

Chances are, your kids DO obey sometimes! When they do, a little affirmation can go a long way. You can say, โ€œI noticed you cleaned up as I asked. Thatโ€™s a blessing to the family.โ€ Or, โ€œYou were super respectful to that server. I bet he appreciated that.โ€ This sort of affirmation helps your kids see, and possibly experience, the benefit of obedience in real-timeโ€”which grows their desire to feel it again. Watch for times when kids obey quickly, and focus on specific ways their obedience is a blessing to others. “Focus is fertilizer” for the behavior we want to see grow!

Parent journal for family meetings about the importance of heartfelt obedience

3. Have family meetings

We highly recommend gathering the family regularly to discuss a wide range of topics. One of the things you can do is have a meeting where you list and discuss the family rulesโ€”this helps ensure they are clear for everyone. You could also try this meeting idea: when the topic is obedience, you could simply ask the question, โ€œWhat would our family be like if we all disobeyed Godโ€™s ways all the time?โ€ and, โ€œHow about if we obeyed all the commands all the time?โ€ Keep it light. Have fun with these questions. 

Then shift gears and ask, โ€œWhat makes it hard to obey sometimes?โ€ Share examples of some ways you struggle to obey and do what you know is right. Then invite your kids to do the same.

Finally, ask the kids about times when youโ€™ve done the best job of addressing their disobedience. Make a list and let them know you want to continue working on addressing misbehavior in grace-filled, helpful ways. This lets kids know:

A) You WILL be addressing disobedience 

and…

B) Youโ€™ll work to be graceful when you do.     

4. Open the Bible

Be intentional about opening the Bible with your kids at mealtime, bedtime, during a family meeting, or throughout the day. Do this proactively; NOT in response to disobedience. Choose a few verses that would most encourage your kids. Help them see that God is trustworthy and good. Make these conversations fun and playful when possible. You can even pray together to ask God for help with obedience. These proactive efforts will lay a healthy foundation for when itโ€™s time to engage with your kidsโ€™ disobedience.

What to do when your child disobeys (instead of punishment)

Any time your kids misbehave, you have a golden opportunity to bring Godโ€™s grace and truth to life! (This is what our book, Discipline That Connects With Your Childโ€™s Heart is all about.) Here are some specific ideas about how to do just that:

Leave or create space 

With a neutral expression, consider using the phrase, โ€œWe all need a break to think about this.โ€ Like the second son in Jesusโ€™ parable we mentioned above, with a little space to think about his choice (and perhaps even feel the guilt of it without intervention), the son came to a place of true, repentant obedience. 

In this space, you can allow room for mistakes and for experiencing the natural impacts of choices.  Weโ€™ve had many parents tell us that when they give their kids space to calm down, their child is more likely to want to do the right thing. Thereโ€™s even room for you to realize that what youโ€™re asking may not have been clear, or may have been motivated by selfish motives. Space leaves room for both kinds of repair.

Again, teaching kids to value obedience IS important. And not all kids will respond to the Holy Spiritโ€™s conviction when you provide space. Do your best to model the Holy Spirit and the Fruit of the Spirit as you come alongside your kids to help them learn.

Choose compassion 

In the space between disobedience and your next response, pray that compassion and grace would rule that response. This is in obedience to the command for parents: โ€œDonโ€™t exasperate your kids but nurture and train them in Godโ€™s ways.โ€ (Our paraphrase of Ephesians 6:4.) 

Father having compassionate conversation with son about disobedience

Build wisdom through questions 

Let kids know that you want to work with them to build wisdom. Instead of making quick behavioral demands when kids disobey, lightly and gracefully ask them, โ€œWhatโ€™s going on?โ€ And then give them space to answer. If the answer is โ€œI donโ€™t know,โ€ ask them, โ€œDo you want to think about it for a minute, or do you want to know what I think?โ€ Again, this is about creating space for your kids to possibly recognize what is underneath their behavior, so you can work together to find a solution and build wisdom. 

Asking questions also helps kids understand that you are for them, not against them. Often, in this space, theyโ€™ll confess, โ€œIโ€™m doing that thing I shouldnโ€™t be doing.โ€ You may even see remorse, and you gently can ask, โ€œAre you feeling bad about what you did? Or bad about getting caught?โ€ 

The possibilities for conversation are almost endless here, but the goal is to remain safe and keep a childโ€™s frontal lobe active and engaged (which we are convinced is where the Holy Spirit accesses our minds). When children (and adults) feel attacked, God designed our bodies to respond quickly (with fight-flight-freeze). Wisdom and healthy learning do not happen in that space.

Over time, as you learn to ask questions like this, your kids will come to value the process and learn to confess and repent from their disobedience. 

Invite confession and restoration 

When kids are able to engage in a process like this, you can invite them at some point to simply say out loud what they did, and what they would like to do to make things right. See the appendix of Discipline That Connects with Your Childโ€™s Heart for other ideas regarding confession and making things right.

Connected discipline vs. punishment: what’s the difference?

There are important differences between punishment and respectful, connected discipline when kids choose defiance.

Punishment is often announced quickly and without warning, for example: โ€œIf you donโ€™t do what I say right now, you’re gonna lose _(a favorite privilege)_โ€ (Insert: screen time, sports practice, time with friends, etc). Kids often donโ€™t really understand the connection between the behavior and the punishment.

Connected discipline is offered with empathy and an explanation. “It is tough when youโ€™re upset to make a wise choice, but how youโ€™re responding isnโ€™t going to be helpful for you in the long run. Until you can (follow through with what Iโ€™ve asked; make things right in this situation, etc.)   things that distract you will be on hold.โ€

The privilege lost may be from the same list, but now youโ€™ve given context and hope for restoration. The child may still push back, but use the opportunity to empathize rather than argue. There is usually no benefit to allowing kids to attempt negotiation of consequences. Simply say something like, โ€œItโ€™s tough, I know, but Iโ€™m here to help you figure it out.โ€ This keeps kids feeling respected, even if they feel frustrated.

When given this space, the child will likely (if somewhat reluctantly) be willing to follow through and/or confess and restore (see โ€œInvite confession and restorationโ€ above).     

Save the requirement of immediate obedience for urgent issues

If we always require immediate obedience, it can condition our kids to no longer listen to us. One Connected Families coaching client said, โ€œI think weโ€™re using up all our โ€˜immediate obedienceโ€™ on Legos.โ€ When your children donโ€™t feel ordered around all the time, they will be much more likely to obey when you say, โ€œOk, kids. Weโ€™ve got to get to the doctor’s appointment quickly. This is a time for immediate obedience so we donโ€™t miss our appointment.โ€

Sometimes, in real life, there are hard consequences when we are defiant or delay obedience. But arenโ€™t you glad there is grace and mercy and that you donโ€™t get punished quickly every time you donโ€™t immediately obey? Letโ€™s keep working to bring that same sort of grace to our children.

At Connected Families, we are committed to helping parents discipline kids in ways that build deep connection, mutual respect, godly wisdom, and love-based obedience. We are convinced that this approach imitates our heavenly Father, who uses the right teaching moments to gently help us learn deeper, love-based obedience throughout our lives.

We are convinced that this approach imitates our heavenly Father, who uses the right teaching moments to gently help us learn deeper, love-based obedience throughout our lives.


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